Out of Curiosity

How many of you think Dave Lindorff’s global warming exists?

The area that will by completely inundated by the rising ocean—and not in a century but in the lifetime of my two cats—are the American southeast, including the most populated area of Texas, almost all of Florida, most of Louisiana, and half of Alabama and Mississippi, as well as goodly portions of eastern Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina. While the northeast will also see some coastal flooding, its geography is such that that aside from a few projecting sandbars like Long Island and Cape Cod, the land rises fairly quickly to well above sea level. Sure, Boston, New York and Philadelphia will be threatened, but these are geographically confined areas that could lend themselves to protection by Dutch-style dikes. The West Coast too tends to rise rapidly to well above sea level in most places. Only down in Southern California towards the San Diego area is the ground closer to sea level.

So certain of this outcome he goes on to argue:

So what we see is that huge swaths of conservative America are set to face a biblical deluge in a few more presidential cycles.

And that the liberal response should be:

The important thing is that we, on the higher ground both actually and figuratively, need to remember that, when they begin their historic migration from their doomed regions, we not give them the keys to the city. They certainly should be offered assistance in their time of need, but we need to keep a firm grip on our political systems, making sure that these guilty throngs who allowed the world to go to hell are gerrymandered into political impotence in their new homes.

There will be much work to be done to help the earth and its residents—human and non-human—survive this man-made catastrophe, and we can’t have these future refugee troglodytes, should their personal disasters still fail to make them recognize reality, mucking things up again.

I wonder how many of you would say his idea of global warming is true or deny his doomsday predictions. Seems to me that his hatred of the conservative view point seems to harm his credibility on global warming. Given that he is a liberal investigative journalist I’m willing to bet he has made a long career out of shaping stories to fit his bias. No doubt his coverage of global warming will suffer as well.

8 Responses to “Out of Curiosity”

  1. Dan Says:

    For any position you can probably find a shrill person putting forward an exaggerated version of it. If you could judge a position (global warming) by its most extreme advocates (Dave Lindorff), does this mean I can disparage gun rights advocates if I find someone advocating legalization of armor piercing ammunition?

  2. steve Says:

    Wait, does that mean you deny his global warming?

  3. Dan Says:

    I believe he is probably exaggerating, yes.

  4. Jamie Says:

    I deny “his” global warming, just as I deny the stupid people that believe global warming doesn’t exist at all. The truth in this case is definitely in between.

  5. Bettina Says:

    As with many questions raised, Steve, I ask you what explicity will be the knowledge gain of asking your audience a question which only serves, once again, the purpose of feeding your reservoir of denying arguments. If you want to aim to the author’s position, do this, but you obviously try to mix positions with facts, and roll off another discussion from behind.

  6. steve Says:

    Look at all the deniers. Jeez don’t you know it’s science? Science = truth. Everybody knows that.

  7. Dan Says:

    Well that depends. Is this Dave Lindoff claiming to be a scientist or a pundit? We know that we are obliged to unfailingly believe the Truth of his every word if he is a pundit. On the other hand, if he is a scientist he must automatically be treated as unreliable at best.

  8. darwin Says:

    Yeah, I suspect I have as much real science background in the area of climatology as he does, and I have no ide what specifically is going t o happen; so I’m skeptical of his claims. Good thing I can use nuance though.

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